Porty wrote:Gemini wrote: I for one, had never heard of OBL before shock and awe.
So we are now using your ignorance as the way ahead. You never heard of OBL prior to shock and awe? FYI prior to 9/11 he was number 2 on the FBI most wanted lis
He subsequently became the most wanted in 100% of the World. And prior to the Iraq war he appeared on a number of videos claiming responsibility for 9/11.
Quite a while later it was acknowledged that Al Q and OBL had no coonection with Iraq, excepting an enmity with Saddam
Gemini wrote:But we sure know what they are about now ,along with a myriad of other factions who are totally anti west! Thanks Tony
Er, Tony wasn't around at the time of the crusades.Which is approx when this started
To answer your points - I at least have the decency to respond to them all - unlike you sadly - when you cherry pick what and what not you respond too.
i)
Firstly - No need to use my ignorance - I freely admit it your honour - that I was totally in the dark about OBL being No.2 on the FBI's most wanted list.
Why would I want to know prior to 9/11?
Porty:
He subsequently became the most wanted in 100% of the World. And prior to the Iraq war he appeared on a number of videos claiming responsibility for 9/11.
Gemini:
ii)Every man and his dog knows this - now - I am sure that I am not alone in my ignorance of OSB before 9/11! but perhaps the only one to freely admit to it?
Porty:
Quite a while later it was acknowledged that Al Q and OBL had no coonection with Iraq, excepting an enmity with Saddam
Gemini:
iii) So it seems.
Gemini wrote:
But we sure know what they are about now ,along with a myriad of other factions who are totally anti west! Thanks Tony[/b]
Porty:
Er, Tony wasn't around at the time of the crusades.Which is approx when this started
Gemini:
iiii) So now we are going back to the Crusades? I was talking recent events ie
9/11 and the bombing of Iraq!
The following is a copy of a letter sent to a friend - a professor of Ottoman History - his opinion on the current events
Quote:
When it comes to the Middle East, it was, at the beginning of the war –if there is one, because everything has an honour even the wars but where its?- so certain that the crazy war will reach this conclusion. If you understand that the reason is greed, no need to know all the history of Middle East, the other non-European parts of the world or the history of power. Since the XVIIth. Century, when Hobbes wrote Leviathan, things are going in the same way. Wars are making state, state is making the wars. Without insecure situations or namely wars, there is no need for the state, and it knows very well.
don't forget, wars are the most profitable enterprises, even better than oil and that is why the Pentagon is the biggest corporation in the world.
Why these noneuropean/uncivilized people attack the European countries? I think, because they are helpless and desperate. Their brothers or sisters are killed and they can't do anything. Besides this, they suffer from cultural integration problems end quote<<
Excuse the translation - but I think we get the full gist of what is meant.
As the Proff. says 'the reasons are greed'.
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