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Michael Jackson

Post by Porty » 07 Jul 2009, 22:51

Apart from his death- what has impacted on you since he passed away?

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Post by wangi » 07 Jul 2009, 22:57

I had the misfortune of being in the US when he popped it... The media reaction was even worse than here. I was forced to listen to the C&W radio stations to escape Jackson songs (local one in Houston is KILT).

What a selective memory people have... I wonder if Gary Glitter will get a similar outpouring.

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Post by Porty » 07 Jul 2009, 23:09

I doubt it, he doesn't have the pedigree or the back catalogue for that matter.

I'm a wee bit surprised by your experience in the USA I must admit.

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Post by Epykat » 08 Jul 2009, 09:44

I liked his early music and, to be fair, he wasn't convicted, and I find it a bit suspicious that any parent, (and a parent who allowed their child to stay with a slightly wierd popstar in the first place), had their child been abused, would take any amount of money to drop charges - so, I'm not convinced of his guilt there. I just think he was a very sad, damaged man. I think it's strange though that photos of his kids have been made public now when he went to such great and strange lengths to keep their faces out of the media. I don't wash with any of this 'he was a genius' crap (and that goes for any dead musician) I just think it's sad that he never had the chance to have a 'normal' life. I'm quite enjoying all the music on the radio too.
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Post by foxy » 08 Jul 2009, 10:25

Epykat wrote:I liked his early music and, to be fair, he wasn't convicted, and I find it a bit suspicious that any parent, (and a parent who allowed their child to stay with a slightly wierd popstar in the first place), had their child been abused, would take any amount of money to drop charges - so, I'm not convinced of his guilt there. I just think he was a very sad, damaged man. I think it's strange though that photos of his kids have been made public now when he went to such great and strange lengths to keep their faces out of the media. I don't wash with any of this 'he was a genius' crap (and that goes for any dead musician) I just think it's sad that he never had the chance to have a 'normal' life. I'm quite enjoying all the music on the radio too.
...what is even weirder is that his kids all appear to be caucasian....one I could just about believe, but 3 is pushing the limits. I think it's sad that he had no childhood but he chose how to live his bizarre adult life, and I personally have not shed a tear

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Post by Epykat » 08 Jul 2009, 12:06

I've not shed a tear either. I wouldn't shed a tear over any deceased celebrity because I don't know them personally and it's not as if I'm never going to hear their music/watch them on telly ever again.

I thought it a bit sus about his white children too - mmmmm - is there a chance he's not the Dad? :shock:
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Post by Eck » 08 Jul 2009, 15:03

It's sad that he's passed away as he was a great artist and entertainer.

I believe that he was 'not guilty' of the offences liablled at him as have the Courts (Judge Porty may have another opinion though :wink: )

What has really got my goat though, since his death, politicians have jumped on the band wagon and even a member of the US Congress was speaking at his tribute. Did all these people come out and support him during his trials? Would they have came out and supported him if he was still alive? NO, because there was always that 'niggling doubt' and risk attached to supporting someone accused of those crimes. Now that there is international feeling for Jacksons loss the politicions are jumping aboard. Shameless.

It's quite ironic that the likes of Diana Ross and Elizabeth Taylor were not at the tribute as they were so upset, however, Congress made an appearance.

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Post by Porty » 08 Jul 2009, 15:21

Eck wrote: 'niggling doubt'
On the face of it I doubt he was a niggler.

I say he is innocent and I firmly believed so all along.

I know two people who bought tickets for his O2 shows and both claim that they knew the shows would not happen- strange. And when the shows were announced one of his biographers was on BBC Breakfast and stated, quite matter of factly, that MJ would not be strong enough. I heard that he was contracted to appear a minimum of 13 minutes on stage for each show.

I love much of his music. In my opinion the full length version of "Smooth Criminal" is unassailable in terms of music video, Iv'e watched it countless times.

And for the record I'd much rather Ronnie Biggs had taken up Jacko's place in "heaven". :wink:

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Post by SoupDragon » 08 Jul 2009, 19:03

Alien Ant Farm did the best version of Smooth Criminal

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Post by Porty » 08 Jul 2009, 19:20

Not seen it but the choreography and execution cannot possibly be as good as the real thing.

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