Does anyone know what the total cost of the roundabout removal and traffic light installation at Duddingston Park and Milton Road was?
I know that the cost of installing a single pedestrian crossing is between £25,000- £27,000, however I was wanting to know what the total cost would be for all the work carried out at that site.
Any help welcome. Cheers.
Cost of Duddingston Park and Milton Road Traffic Lights
Eck wrote:Does anyone know what the total cost of the roundabout removal and traffic light installation at Duddingston Park and Milton Road was?
I know that the cost of installing a single pedestrian crossing is between £25,000- £27,000, however I was wanting to know what the total cost would be for all the work carried out at that site.
Any help welcome. Cheers.
You could make a FOI Act request to the Council to find out the info. The Councils call centre handle first line enquirys regarding FOI requests, contact number is 200 2340.Grunk wrote:It would be good to know what the estimated cost was before the works as well?
I've not searched, but you'll probably find all the info and costs on these projects "hidden in plain view" on http://cpol.edinburgh.gov.uk
Not having much joy with this. The only thing that I found was the costs for all of the bus priority schemes along Milton Road and the removal of the roundabouts which totalled in excess of £1.5 million.wangi wrote:I've not searched, but you'll probably find all the info and costs on these projects "hidden in plain view" on http://cpol.edinburgh.gov.uk
I've submitted a FOI via the online service.
Cheers folks.
A new traffic island is being put in place less than 150 metres away from the crossroads which to me seems totally pointless, and at a time when Edinburgh Council is boasting a deficit in budgets due to the financial situation, also appears to be a waste of money. There are another 2 pedestrian crossings less than 300 metres further south on the street as well. This has all been supported by Councilor Bridgman.Porty wrote:Out of curiosity- why do you want to know? Are you thinking of getting the Mr or Mrs a set for their christmas?
The reason that we have been given so far is that it is for the benefit of the blind...Porty wrote:Good luck trying to rationalise Edinburgh's traffic management/hardware soultions!!
To me, and it is just me humble opinion, but a blind person crossing at a pedestrian crossing is going to be a lot safer than one who is crossing at a traffic island. There are another 3 pedestrian crossings within a very short space.
I think that this has been put in for the benefit of someone who is too lazy to walk down to the crossing. This has also been hinted at by the various people who I have spoken to with regards to this. Judging from some peoples opinion of Mike Bridgmans attitude to attending local meetings, it is no surprise that he has pushed this issue through.
No notice was given to any residents about this work, which will limit parking space to four houses, and although the council have said that they don't have to issue notices, you would think through courtesy and good will they would. I also believe though that, had they issued notices, there would have been a strong objection to this. Hence why architects were out on Sunday marking the road and the work began on Tuesday. This would seem to me to be a strange day to commence a project, however, you will notice that Mr Bridgman holds his surgeries on a Monday night.
This is in relation to his ward, not other roadworks across the city. It is also a project that he has put pressure on the council to push through. Every other councillor who we have spoken to or left messages for have returned them promptly.seanie wrote:Given the amount of grief he probably gets for roadworks all across the city, in particular the trams, I'm not sure one wee traffic island is going to send him into hiding.
The other councillors have managed to hold their surgeries and return phone calls, you must be trying to tell me that Mr Bridgman is a great deal busier than the other councillors and also people working in the council offices??? Given the thread that has been dedicated to Mr Bridgman on this forum it seems to me that he is an elusive character.
This is not about 'one wee traffic island', its about how tax-payers money is being mis-managed for needles projects. This is happening in his own ward and he seems to be supporting this, therefore he should justify these actions.
It is also worth mentioning that last Sunday two architects were out on a Sunday marking up the traffic island, possibly on an inflated wage. Then from Tuesday to Friday last week there were 3-4 men working at the site. On Sunday there were 6 men working, probably on double time or more and since then there has been no one back at the site!
'One wee traffic island' costs at the very minimum £4000. This would be fine if there wasn't 4 pedestrian crossings installed 150 metres down the road at a minimum cost of £27,000 each, as well as another two about 200 metres further up the road. The total costs for both the Milton Road roundabout removals and the bus priority scheme was tendered out to EDRC for a cost of £1.5 million. I have no doubts that this figure was probably exceeded once work commenced. Going along these costs, I am assuming that the Milton Road and Duddingston Park roundabout removal and installation of traffic lights was well in excess of £108,000.
These works were carried out to prevent road traffic accidents and help people cross the road safely. The reason that the traffic island is being installed is so that a blind person can cross the road. It seems very strange to me that a blind person wants to cross the road at a traffic island rather than walk the 100 metres to a controlled crossing. This is all being done at a time when Edinburgh Council is admitting that it is going to have a multi million pound budget deficit due to lost costs on property sales. The work also doesn't seem to be carried out at the most cost effective times with architects and workers being called out on a Sunday.
These works were carried out to prevent road traffic accidents and help people cross the road safely. The reason that the traffic island is being installed is so that a blind person can cross the road. It seems very strange to me that a blind person wants to cross the road at a traffic island rather than walk the 100 metres to a controlled crossing. This is all being done at a time when Edinburgh Council is admitting that it is going to have a multi million pound budget deficit due to lost costs on property sales. The work also doesn't seem to be carried out at the most cost effective times with architects and workers being called out on a Sunday.
A couple of weeks ago I wrote to Child, Tymkewycz, Aitken, Burns, Bridgman , Mackaskill and about 4 Officials. All but one acknowledged and/or responded- elusive indeed.Eck wrote: The other councillors have managed to hold their surgeries and return phone calls, you must be trying to tell me that Mr Bridgman is a great deal busier than the other councillors and also people working in the council offices??? Given the thread that has been dedicated to Mr Bridgman on this forum it seems to me that he is an elusive character.
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The cost of the following work is currently sitting at £766,000:
-Replacement of a signalised pedestrian crossing on Milton Road at Hope Lane
-Replacement and relocation of a signalised pedestrian crossing on Milton Road West at Durham Road
-Two new pedestrian refuge islands on Duddingston Park
-Improvements to street lighting apparatus at the locations of the above pedestrian crossing facilities
-New bus lanes on both sides of Milton Road between Duddingston Park Junction and Magdalene Drive
-New bus lanes on both sides of Milton Road West between Duddingston Park Junction and Mountcastle Drive North
-New bus lane on Duddingston Park on the approach to Duddingston Park Junction
-New bus lane on Duddingston Park South on the approach to Duddingston Park Junction
-Upgrading of facilities at 14 bus stops on Milton Road, Milton Road West, Duddingston Park and Duddingston Park South
-New drop crossings with tactile paving at side road crossing points on Milton Road, Milton Road West, Duddingston Park and Duddingston Park South
The £766,000 is NOT the final figure. The FOI request has stated that there are sums being withheld which have been claimed by the contractors due to delay and disruption to the contractors operations which were not agreed to prior to the contact being awarded.
You will also note that none of the work above includes a pedestrian refuge island in Duddingston Park South. This therefore would be at a cost over and above that which is stated.
-Replacement of a signalised pedestrian crossing on Milton Road at Hope Lane
-Replacement and relocation of a signalised pedestrian crossing on Milton Road West at Durham Road
-Two new pedestrian refuge islands on Duddingston Park
-Improvements to street lighting apparatus at the locations of the above pedestrian crossing facilities
-New bus lanes on both sides of Milton Road between Duddingston Park Junction and Magdalene Drive
-New bus lanes on both sides of Milton Road West between Duddingston Park Junction and Mountcastle Drive North
-New bus lane on Duddingston Park on the approach to Duddingston Park Junction
-New bus lane on Duddingston Park South on the approach to Duddingston Park Junction
-Upgrading of facilities at 14 bus stops on Milton Road, Milton Road West, Duddingston Park and Duddingston Park South
-New drop crossings with tactile paving at side road crossing points on Milton Road, Milton Road West, Duddingston Park and Duddingston Park South
The £766,000 is NOT the final figure. The FOI request has stated that there are sums being withheld which have been claimed by the contractors due to delay and disruption to the contractors operations which were not agreed to prior to the contact being awarded.
You will also note that none of the work above includes a pedestrian refuge island in Duddingston Park South. This therefore would be at a cost over and above that which is stated.