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Post by Gemini » 04 Jun 2005, 23:47

Got this new's from a neighbour tonight.


Historic Scotland were down at red buildings beside petrol station
yesterday. Apparently they are seeing if they can list it. Duddingston lot
came down and were furious.

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 05 Jun 2005, 11:53

Gemini wrote:Got this new's from a neighbour tonight. Historic Scotland were down at red buildings beside petrol station
yesterday. Apparently they are seeing if they can list it.
Yes, I was in said building yesterday and got this story from the current lease-holders. It's a very nice building, a useful space and I think it is worth keeping. 'Get Creative' have been operating from there for the last few months, but because of the uncertainty over the future of the builidng they have taken over Reiman's electrical shop at 100 Porty High Street and move in July.

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Post by Maria » 05 Jun 2005, 16:14

Bob Jefferson wrote:
Gemini wrote:Got this new's from a neighbour tonight. Historic Scotland were down at red buildings beside petrol station
yesterday. Apparently they are seeing if they can list it.
Yes, I was in said building yesterday and got this story from the current lease-holders.
Nothing much escapes your attention, does it Bob? :lol:
It's a very nice building, a useful space and I think it is worth keeping. 'Get Creative' have been operating from there for the last few months, but because of the uncertainty over the future of the builidng they have taken over Reiman's electrical shop at 100 Porty High Street and move in July.
Glad to hear that that they're sticking with us and not re-locating elsewhere. This move can only be beneficial to the High Street
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Post by dccairns » 05 Jun 2005, 16:44

Marya

Thanks for the info on the programme on Friday evening - sorry I missed it. It really makes you worry that we could soon be in the grip of a retail organisation in the same way that Wal-Mart has a stranglehold oven retail in the US.

One thing we could all do is to write to the OFT to ask them to investigate Tesco's now monoplistic position. (I know Porty said it was an oligopoly but that is what the "big four" supermarkets have - just a technicality but he's bound to pick me up on it!).

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Post by dccairns » 05 Jun 2005, 16:48

Oh no! I realise I have just become portyobsessed!

Anyway, on a cheerier note from my previous post, here is a date for your diaries: the PCATS victory celebration will take place on Saturday 25 June at 7.30 pm in Portobello Town Hall. It will be an informal party for us to get together and celebrate our momentous community victory. More details to follow. Hope to see you there!

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Post by Gemini » 05 Jun 2005, 18:12

dccairns wrote>>
Oh no! I realise I have just become portyobsessed!
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Dahling, we have been telling you this for nearly two years :wink: :lol: :lol:

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Post by dccairns » 06 Jun 2005, 15:33

Is there a cure?

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Post by Gemini » 06 Jun 2005, 17:36

Big Bottle of Pink Cava - chilled of course :wink:

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Post by Gemini » 06 Jun 2005, 17:44

From EN

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Lessons for planners after store fight win

COMMUNITIES minister Malcolm Chisholm has agreed to meet city MSP Susan Deacon over lessons which could be learned for planning policy from the successful fight to block a store in Portobello.

Full article: http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinb ... =621042005

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 07 Jun 2005, 17:00

I am grateful to karen for the following link:

Attack of the Clone Towns

wangi, here's a great opportunity to use some of those lbd shots!

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Post by dccairns » 09 Jun 2005, 17:24

COME AND CELEBRATE WITH US!

Portobello Campaign Against the Superstore invites you to a Public Inquiry Victory Party featuring local musicians and dancers on SATURDAY 25 JUNE at 7.30 pm till midnight in Portobello Town Hall.

There will be no bar (less work!) so please BYOB. There will be some food laid on but please feel free to bring your own. Glasses, plates and napkins will be provided.

Tickets: Adults - £2 (towards costs), children (up to 12 years) free - available from Portobello Stationers.

See you there!

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Post by Porty » 20 Jun 2005, 13:59

Fears supermarket giant will crush shops with new branch

BRIAN FERGUSON
CITY COUNCIL REPORTER



CONTROVERSIAL plans to build a store in one of Edinburgh's most prestigious shopping areas sparked fears today that it will kill off nearby shops.

More than 70 objections have flooded in against supermarket giant Tesco's plans to create a Tesco Metro on the site of a former garden centre in Morningside early next year.

Mainly food and drink will be sold inside the 13,500sq ft outlet, which will sit alongside a two-storey villa which the developer plans to turn into either a shop or cafe.

Duddingston House Properties took over the Churchhill Garden Centre, at Holy Corner, after securing permission from the council for a change of use last year.

But the development has faced massive opposition from local businesses and community leaders amid fears it will spark traffic chaos in local streets and push out traditional shops.

The venture appears to have sharply divided the local community, with some shopkeepers believing that it will actually boost the area by bringing in more shoppers.

Bridget Stevens, chair of Merchiston Community Council, said: "Some people are very worried about this development for a variety of reasons.

"I know several local businesses are worried they may go under, while people living in nearby streets fear there is going to be a huge increase in traffic.

"There are no parking restrictions in the streets behind the old garden centre and the worry is that there will be a big impact from people coming to both the Tesco and the cafe, as well as from delivery vehicles."

Local councillor Sue Tritton said there were mixed feelings about the development and that some people do think it would be great to have a supermarket and believe that it would bring more people to the area.

She added: "But this is a really good shopping area and there are worries that some of the shops could really suffer. I really hope this doesn't have a serious impact on them.

"The other big concern is about the traffic as there are very few parking spaces planned to be provided and it may create a lot of extra congestion in the surrounding streets."

Yolanda Luca, who runs Luca's ice cream shop, on Holy Corner, agreed.

She said: "Although I don't think I'll be directly affected by the supermarket, there is concern from many people about the extra traffic the supermarket may bring to the area, as it is already very difficult to find somewhere to park."

Work is due to start within the next few months on the development, which is close to an existing Morrisons supermarket on Morningside Road. It is being pursued in the wake of failed attempts to open both a hotel and restaurant on the site.

Charles Martin, of Duddingston House Properties, said: "Work should be under way during the summer with a view to the store opening early in 2006."

"The store will be roughly somewhere between the size of a Tesco supermarket and a Tesco Express, it's a mid-range size store.

"There has been a lot of interest in the villa so far and it could well be either another shop or an unlicensed cafe."

A spokeswoman for Tesco said the store, at 2 Colinton Road, would be expected to create around 120 new jobs.

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Post by dccairns » 20 Jun 2005, 21:57

It's taken them long enough to interest a retailer in that site. Wonder what the delay was.


On a cheerier note, this is a reminder about the PCATS victory party this coming Saturday. Details below.

Portobello Campaign Against the Superstore invites you to a Public Inquiry Victory Party featuring local musicians and dancers on SATURDAY 25 JUNE at 7.30 pm till midnight in Portobello Town Hall.

There will be no bar (less work!) so please BYOB. There will be some food laid on but please feel free to bring your own. Glasses, plates and napkins will be provided.

Tickets: Adults - £2 (towards costs), children (up to 12 years) free - available from Portobello Stationers.

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Post by Gemini » 22 Jun 2005, 07:36

From today's Herald, regarding planning.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/41685.html

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Post by Gemini » 24 Jun 2005, 22:25

From BBC News

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4122460.stm

A link to Tescopoly too.

Maybe reading this, might make you sign the petition?

http://www.schnews.co.uk/archive/news493.htm

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 24 Jun 2005, 22:40

I like Tescopoly, but how come PCATS isn't featured on it? Please rectify.

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Post by dccairns » 25 Jun 2005, 13:52

Will send info in, although the application was from DHP not Tesco directly so they might not consider it suitable for the site.

Anyway, just to whet your appetite for tonight's jamboree there will be two ceilidh bands playing, including the fabulous Belle Stars, belly dancing from Gypsy Fire and Brazilian Capoeiro dancing - a truly eclectic evening.

There will be tickets available on the door tonight for those of you who like to live on the edge and don't forget to BYOB (I think Haddow's will be doing a roaring trade tonight).

See y'all later!

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 25 Jun 2005, 21:44

I had to leave early tonight as I'm working at 7am tomorrow, but I bumped into Susan Deacon and she had this to say:

Susan Deacon on the PCATS celebration

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 02 Jul 2005, 11:04

The following photos from the PCATS celebration are courtesy of Spree. If anyone else has any please post here or email to me and I'll post for you.

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Post by dccairns » 27 Jul 2005, 11:20

Thought those of you who are concerned about the new planning legislation proposals by the Scottish Executive might be interested in the following information about consultation workshops to be held later on in the year.

Please read on for detail of how to register for the events.

Communities Committee Events on Planning Issues

Your opportunity to be involved in a major Committee consideration of new
planning legislation!

The Communities Committee will be holding a series of three civic
participation events on planning issues this autumn: one for members of the
public and community groups, one for planning professionals and one for
developers and other business interests.

These events will be held in advance of the Scottish Executive's proposed
planning bill being introduced to the Scottish Parliament which the
Committee will scrutinise. The planning bill will be a key Executive bill
and will bring forward primary legislation on this topic for the first time
in many years. It is also an area where there is considerable public
interest due to the controversy surrounding some planning proposals. The
Committee is keen to hear from communities and professionals involved in
planning before the bill is introduced so it can gain a better understanding
of their views.

If you have an interest in planning matters and would like to be involved in
the event for members of the public and community groups, please register
your interest here: Registration of Interest Form.

The Committee would also like to hear from you if you are a professional
planner or work in the area of planning policy or development or the
business sector. If these categories apply to you and you would like more
information on either the event for planning professionals or the event for
developers and other business interests, please send your name and contact
details to: communities.committee@scottish.parliament.uk.

Alternatively you can contact the Committee clerks by telephone:

Tel: 0131 348 5408 (or) 0131 348 5244

or by post:

Clerk to the Communities Committee
Room T3.40
The Scottish Parliament
Edinburgh
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Any personal data you provide to us will be treated in accordance with the
requirements of the Data Protection Act 1998 and the Scottish Parliament's
privacy policy. The information that you provide will not be supplied to any
third parties and will be used only for the purposes of identifying
participants or providing information on the events.

You can also find news about all aspects of the Committee's work via the
Committee's website at:

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/busin ... /index.htm

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Post by dccairns » 01 Aug 2005, 14:21

Just a reminder that part 2 of the Dispatches documentary investigating supermarkets will be screened tonight on Channel 4 at 8 pm.

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 18 Dec 2005, 19:53

Just received the following from dc cairns:
Dear All

We have heard from Lawrence Marshall that DHP have sold the ex Scottish Power site to a company called BL Developments (they apparently bought the Shrubhill site after the Wimpey housing development was bombed out at a public inquiry).

In her initial discussion with Lawrence, an employee of BL Developments said they would consider a housing development on the site or possibly a mixed development possibly with some housing, a hotel and offices.

Obviously we shall have to wait and see what planning applications are lodged but we can be cautiously optimistic and rejoice that at least the site is out of the clutches of DHP.

If anyone knows anything about the company, please let us know.

Meantime, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy, healthy and superstore-free Christmas and New Year.

Diana
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Post by Epykat » 18 Dec 2005, 22:12

Hopefully this is good news and if houses are eventually are built there it will be the final victory :)
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Post by Porty » 19 Dec 2005, 18:36

I see the Jet station is undergoing some work. Anyone know the story?

If BL developments have indeed bought the site, what does that mean for the sustanable development plan?

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Post by Poppy » 19 Dec 2005, 19:27

Porty wrote:I see the Jet station is undergoing some work. Anyone know the story?

If BL developments have indeed bought the site, what does that mean for the sustanable development plan?
Have instructed Mr Poppy- who lives opposite- to find out more. :lol:

He says it was open this morning for what he thought was a delivery but perhaps was drainage of fuel before work started?

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Post by susie » 19 Dec 2005, 19:43

well folks i want the supermarket. we do have other supermarkets as someone said but they are a car journey away, and we dont all have cars. good luck hope we get it and im probably not the only one.

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Post by wangi » 19 Dec 2005, 23:40

susie wrote:well folks i want the supermarket. we do have other supermarkets as someone said but they are a car journey away, and we dont all have cars. good luck hope we get it and im probably not the only one.
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Post by Jackson Priest » 20 Dec 2005, 10:47

Porty wrote:I see the Jet station is undergoing some work. Anyone know the story?

If BL developments have indeed bought the site, what does that mean for the sustanable development plan
I bought petrol there on saturday. The shop was empty, apart from 2 mars bars and a twix. The bloke behind the counter said that it was closing down - he thought they were building flats there instead. But he wasn't sure.

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Post by Porty » 20 Dec 2005, 13:29

Jackson Priest wrote:The bloke behind the counter said that it was closing down - he thought they were building flats there instead.
I just heard that Roger Daltrey was one of the last ever customers and did an impromptu acoustic number for the benefit of the few people present.

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Post by Ed » 20 Dec 2005, 13:41

Porty wrote:I see the Jet station is undergoing some work. Anyone know the story?

If BL developments have indeed bought the site, what does that mean for the sustanable development plan?
Was in at weekend, girl said one of three things was happening:

* Tesco Express (ala Willowbrae)
* flats
* someone else coming to rent the site

She did say that the builders had been in checking out how deep the (petrol) tanks were.
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Post by Dakota » 20 Dec 2005, 21:52

I won't miss it. My ageing Citroen Saxo used to dislike the petrol... Somehow, the engine never ran smoothly after filling up there. (I wish I was making that up.)
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Post by Epykat » 23 Dec 2005, 21:52

I've heard the Tesco Express story too. It's definitely shut now! COC is gutted - nowhere to pick up her rolls as she staggers home at 4.30am :lol:
Enough of your nonsense - get back to the Play Pen!

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Post by foxy » 24 Dec 2005, 14:31

Porty wrote:
Jackson Priest wrote:The bloke behind the counter said that it was closing down - he thought they were building flats there instead.
I just heard that Roger Daltrey was one of the last ever customers and did an impromptu acoustic number for the benefit of the few people present.
Oh yeah :roll: and tell us Porty what did he play :?

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