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Milk in bags

Post by teddygirl » 23 Jan 2005, 11:47

Does anyone else remember when we used to get milk in polythene bags ?
This morning TG junior thought he was showing me something new when he showed me how you get your milk in Canada.................in bags.

I remember many years ago they tried it here and provided you with a special jug that you put the bag into once you opened it. Of course I grew up in the North East supplied by Mackies milk and it may have been a regional thing. :?: :?: :?:

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Post by Porty » 23 Jan 2005, 12:04

I remember pyramid shaped packages but not milk in bags.

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Post by foxy » 23 Jan 2005, 12:46

Don't remember that TG

Probably showing my age, but I do remember getting school milk in little third pint glass bottles which froze in the winter and the teacher and the "milk monitor" had to put them on the radiators

Even when it wasn't frozen, you were given a choice of cold or warm milk... :sad3:

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Post by ecm » 23 Jan 2005, 13:34

foxy wrote:Don't remember that TG

Probably showing my age, but I do remember getting school milk in little third pint glass bottles which froze in the winter and the teacher and the "milk monitor" had to put them on the radiators

Even when it wasn't frozen, you were given a choice of cold or warm milk... :sad3:
I loved milk from those wee bottles, Foxy. It always seemed to be ice-cold no matter the time of the year. Must have been my draughty Primary School!
I remember the pyramid cartons too, Porty.

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Post by Maria » 23 Jan 2005, 13:40

I hated the milk at school. Ours was delivered from the local dairy in a big metal container that was left to sit out until the milk soured slightly. You had to strain the lumps out through your teeth as you drank it. It makes my stomach turn just thinking about it :tongue6:

I also remember the milk bags and jugs Teddygirl but it's only a very vague memory. :?
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Post by MrSpoon » 23 Jan 2005, 13:52

Here are the Canadian ones, maybe they'll jog your memories ;)

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Post by Porty » 23 Jan 2005, 14:07

Only on POL!! :D :D :lol:

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 23 Jan 2005, 14:17

Hey, MrSpoon! Don't hotlink. :lol:

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 23 Jan 2005, 14:28

9 December, 1998

Dear Mr Wastle

As a responsible parent I am keen that my son should have a healthy diet. I still believe that it was a mistake to stop free school milk but am nevertheless prepared to pay. On more than one occasion, however, it would appear that he has not drunk his milk as it was warm. I would be interested to know what time the milk is delivered to the school and how it is stored prior to distribution. I suspect that at present the school has no refrigeration facility and that the milk is stored at room temperature. In the summer months this must pose even more of a problem.

I have spoken to officials at the Department of Environmental Health in general terms about the storage of milk. They strongly recommend that milk should be refrigerated, as seems common sense. The health risk involved may be negligible but if the milk is not served cold then it is going to be unpalatable. My own memories of school milk are that this was often the case and it was enough to put me off drinking milk for life.

As an adult I take it for granted that my employer will provide this facility. My packed lunch is kept cool and fresh while my son’s sandwich is left in a warm cloakroom until lunchtime. He enjoys eating yoghurt but we are not confident that it would still be fresh by lunch break and we reluctantly use fillings such as cooked meat in his sandwiches with similar reservations.

I was also rather surprised to read that children who complied with your otherwise commendable head lice program were to be rewarded with a ‘sweet treat’! Surely the school is not handing out confectionery? Please reassure me.

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Post by MrSpoon » 23 Jan 2005, 14:28

Bob Jefferson wrote:Hey, MrSpoon! Don't hotlink. :lol:
from my own bloomin site, gah!

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Post by MrSpoon » 23 Jan 2005, 14:33

Bob Jefferson wrote:
9 December, 1998

Dear Mr Wastle

As a responsible parent I am keen that my son should have a healthy diet. I still believe that it was a mistake to stop free school milk but am nevertheless prepared to pay. On more than one occasion, however, it would appear that he has not drunk his milk as it was warm. I would be interested to know what time the milk is delivered to the school and how it is stored prior to distribution. I suspect that at present the school has no refrigeration facility and that the milk is stored at room temperature. In the summer months this must pose even more of a problem.

I have spoken to officials at the Department of Environmental Health in general terms about the storage of milk. They strongly recommend that milk should be refrigerated, as seems common sense. The health risk involved may be negligible but if the milk is not served cold then it is going to be unpalatable. My own memories of school milk are that this was often the case and it was enough to put me off drinking milk for life.

As an adult I take it for granted that my employer will provide this facility. My packed lunch is kept cool and fresh while my son’s sandwich is left in a warm cloakroom until lunchtime. He enjoys eating yoghurt but we are not confident that it would still be fresh by lunch break and we reluctantly use fillings such as cooked meat in his sandwiches with similar reservations.

I was also rather surprised to read that children who complied with your otherwise commendable head lice program were to be rewarded with a ‘sweet treat’! Surely the school is not handing out confectionery? Please reassure me.

Yours sincerely


Bob Jefferson
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Ugh - My primary 1 (possibly p2) was the last year at Towerbank to get milk in bottles, and it was fantastic.

Those awful plastic cartons really did me off drinking milk. Not ONCE were they cold/fresh. I remember drinking from one that was so sour I had to throw up straight after - as disgusting taste I remember to this day.

I probably didn't drink my milk more often than not. I remember at Towerbank they would always keep the little crate of milk for the class by the sinks - I'm sure it used to amuse me that there was this notion that by keeping milk near the sink it would somehow make it colder..

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Post by Maria » 23 Jan 2005, 14:52

Bob Jefferson wrote:
They strongly recommend that milk should be refrigerated, as seems common sense. ....... As an adult I take it for granted that my employer will provide this facility. My packed lunch is kept cool and fresh.....
I do not recall receiving a satisfactory reply.

The poor head was probably too busy filling in job applications for other Council funded posts having found out the sheer luxury that you get at work. How do you expect to get the kids' lunch boxes refrigerated if the council budget doesn't even stretch to providing a fridge or kettle for school staff ? I demand a public enquiry into how many other council employees have been provided with free fridges!
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Post by Porty » 23 Jan 2005, 15:33

There's no point crying over s hit milk.

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Post by Pal of Porty » 23 Jan 2005, 16:04

Cold, warm or hot, I have fond memories of drinking my 1/3 pint of milk out of those little bottles AND I still love drinking milk today. 8)
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Post by teddygirl » 23 Jan 2005, 17:17

Bob, you'll be relieved to know that all the milk in the nursery is kept refrigerated. :D
I obviously wasted a lot of money paying for school milk as I've now found out that most of it was never drunk........after P2 anyway. :x

Marya I'm glad that someone else remembers these bags,even though it is a vague memory, I don't think they lasted for very long, obviously not a successful experiment.

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Post by Sandra » 23 Jan 2005, 18:25

We got the milk in wee triangular cartons in primary school and it was always warm. yuck. I rarely drink milk now except in tea and coffee and occasionally hot chocolate.

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 23 Jan 2005, 18:56

teddygirl wrote:Bob, you'll be relieved to know that all the milk in the nursery is kept refrigerated. :D
Delighted to hear it. Saves me having to write another snotty letter. :lol:

Seriously, what annoys me is the fact that schools get away with it only because they are dealing with young kids, who can't stand up for their rights. Imagine a situation where, as an adult, you have paid in advance for a carton of milk each day and are regularly given one that is warm and sour.

I don't think it's asking too much to provide a fridge in each classroom to store milk and packed lunches, though I accept that it would probably be down to PTAs to provide the funding. Access to drinking water should also be available. Research has shown that dehydration causes lack of concentration, hence "a drink to make you think."

As for my office situation, it took a long time to persuade my department that a supply of safe drinking water was perhaps a basic human right, but I'm glad to report that water dispensers are now to be found throughout the company. Might take a bit longer to convince them that a 42 inch plasma screen is also my God given right, but I'm working on it. :wink:

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Post by wangi » 23 Jan 2005, 19:01

Bob Jefferson wrote:As for my office situation, it took a long time to persuade my department that a supply of safe drinking water was perhaps a basic human right, but I'm glad to report that water dispensers are now to be found throughout the company.
What's wrong with the tap?

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Post by Bob Jefferson » 23 Jan 2005, 19:10

If, as in our case, it happens to be in the Gents toilet and if there are dead pigeons in the cold water tank, then plenty!

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Post by mr magnolia » 23 Jan 2005, 19:43

did you drink it with a straw?

I well remember having a huge argument with my dad 'cos I KNEW that the cream was at the bottom, cos you got to drink it last...

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Post by foxy » 23 Jan 2005, 23:11

mr magnolia wrote:did you drink it with a straw?

I well remember having a huge argument with my dad 'cos I KNEW that the cream was at the bottom, cos you got to drink it last...

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Is the same true for Guinness :?

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Post by CatzVP » 24 Jan 2005, 09:22

Its actually quite handy to have milk in bags, they are freezable so it never goes off, and you can defrost them in the micro in 7 mins.... even though the average sell by date here is about one month from purchase date!!
I hated them when I first came over.... now I couldn't live without them!
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Post by mr magnolia » 24 Jan 2005, 10:35

foxy wrote:
mr magnolia wrote:did you drink it with a straw?

I well remember having a huge argument with my dad 'cos I KNEW that the cream was at the bottom, cos you got to drink it last...

:roll:
Is the same true for Guinness :?
I think in the case of Guiness you would have had to have an observer, as it wasn't possible to drink a pint through a straw and notice anything at the end. And we didn't get the choice, anyway.
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Post by bellybabe » 24 Jan 2005, 12:02

CatzVP wrote:Its actually quite handy to have milk in bags, they are freezable so it never goes off, and you can defrost them in the micro in 7 mins.... even though the average sell by date here is about one month from purchase date!!
I hated them when I first came over.... now I couldn't live without them!
Ugh. I have to say what I've always hated most when I've spent time abroad has been the lack of fresh milk.
We have it delivered. In glass bottles. Environmentally friendly and it tastes so much better. I love the milkman. Even though I've never seen him. (Although he's come before other half has come home at times! And if he came on Sundays he could have joined the party which would have still been going strong when he arrived...)

Bob, have you read Joanna Blythman's book on the food our children eat? Whilst it's a bit pompous in places (especially as I'm told by a local teacher who shall remain nameless :wink: that her kids eat just as much crap outside the house as anyone else's...), it really does make the point that in this country we expect our kids to eat food we probably wouldn't feed ourt pets. Like Baked Beans with Sausages - just ask PoP! Forcing them to take health risks we wouldn't dream of taking ourselves (like drinking warm milk and eating unrefridgerated lunches) is indicative of the way our society seems to be viewing children's diet. Last year we were called over by the teacher at the end of the day to be told eldest, who doesn't cope well with colourings and flavourings, had been very hyper all afternoon and they'd discovered it was because he'd been given additive-laden sweets by the other kids. The school's answer to this, having seen his behaviour following such food, was to request us to put sweets or chocolate in his lunchbox every day so that he wouldn't eat the worse things offered by the other children!!! Hello?! :shock:
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Post by mr magnolia » 24 Jan 2005, 12:23

Milk deliveries! hey, we really have moved out to the country!

Who delivers your milk, BB?
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Post by bellybabe » 24 Jan 2005, 12:31

mr magnolia wrote:Milk deliveries! hey, we really have moved out to the country!

Who delivers your milk, BB?
The milkman.

You asked for that.

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Post by Pal of Porty » 24 Jan 2005, 17:23

Bellybabe wrote:The milkman
Ask a silly question........... :D :D :D :D
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Post by mr magnolia » 25 Jan 2005, 11:49

Bellybabe wrote:
mr magnolia wrote:Milk deliveries! hey, we really have moved out to the country!

Who delivers your milk, BB?
The milkman.

You asked for that.

Stuart Robertson for Wisemans.
Tel 01875 611026 (Tranent).
Email sturob01@aol.com
He does Portobello at about 3am. 45p a pint.
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