Yes definitely, as I found out when I tried to find out if our torture poll result was oddball and found that it matched US public opinion on torture directly after 9/11.Porty wrote:I have to do a little reprise on the opinion poll debate. One circumstance when opinion polls could be seen to be prime facie evidence is when the subject that needs to be evidenced is; public opinion. As in this case.Dadaist wrote:Fair enough - I can't say I have an opinion on the difference between using an opinion poll and favouring one - the only one I've ever posted that I can remember was to wonder which shop Jesus would go to if he came back to Porty.
Blair's Cajones
I want a public inquiry. This is a resignation issue.Porty wrote:Whatever , just don't do it again buddy.Dadaist wrote:Thing is though, how then would I know you *did* edit the post?
Wow, I'm really confused now. The one I wrote at 4.22 was hurried just before I left the office so it might be that one which is wrong.
Either way, you're quite right - one of the two is rubbish, so I was therefore incorrect myself, wrong for saying you are incorrect if it's the second one, and on a holistic level grossly unqualified to try and point out minor cosmetic inconsistency in your posts where mine can become confused in the space of 79 minutes.
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Brilliantly engineered Porty - here's our big chance!
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In all seriousness, I am not surprised in the least.Dadaist wrote:Yes definitely, as I found out when I tried to find out if our torture poll result was oddball and found that it matched US public opinion on torture directly after 9/11.
Are there more recent polls available? Would be interesting to make a comparison.
It's ok, it's not the first or the last time I have looked like a complete buffoon - on Saturday I punctured (badly) the tyre on my driving instructor's car whilst pulling to the side of the road to take off my jumper, leaving her to drive on a wheel rim to Kwik Fit and me to walk home.Bob Jefferson wrote:Brilliantly engineered Porty - here's our big chance!
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I had left my house keys in her car and was therefore locked out of the house - I tried to break in by going round the back and sticking my hand in the cat flap to reach the back door key, failed miserably, but didn't know that BB had actually got back home by then (I hadn't even bothered to try the front door, which was open) and thought there was somebody trying to break in.
Once BB had stopped laughing at me, I sort of found the whole thing funny.
That sounds like quite a successful day by your own standards.Dadaist wrote:It's ok, it's not the first or the last time I have looked like a complete buffoon - on Saturday I punctured (badly) the tyre on my driving instructor's car whilst pulling to the side of the road to take off my jumper, leaving her to drive on a wheel rim to Kwik Fit and me to walk home.Bob Jefferson wrote:Brilliantly engineered Porty - here's our big chance!
EDIT - whoops, sorry - that was supposed to be a pm.
I had left my house keys in her car and was therefore locked out of the house - I tried to break in by going round the back and sticking my hand in the cat flap to reach the back door key, failed miserably, but didn't know that BB had actually got back home by then (I hadn't even bothered to try the front door, which was open) and thought there was somebody trying to break in.
Once BB had stopped laughing at me, I sort of found the whole thing funny.
I *was* surprised, and very saddened. It would be nice if said opinion had changed, but it's too late now for a lot of people who got bombed into dust for reasons of revenge.Porty wrote:In all seriousness, I am not surprised in the least.Dadaist wrote:Yes definitely, as I found out when I tried to find out if our torture poll result was oddball and found that it matched US public opinion on torture directly after 9/11.
Are there more recent polls available? Would be interesting to make a comparison.
That story is as nothing compared to the Burns Supper story, which I have never told anybody, not even BB.Porty wrote:That sounds like quite a successful day by your own standards.Dadaist wrote:It's ok, it's not the first or the last time I have looked like a complete buffoon - on Saturday I punctured (badly) the tyre on my driving instructor's car whilst pulling to the side of the road to take off my jumper, leaving her to drive on a wheel rim to Kwik Fit and me to walk home.Bob Jefferson wrote:Brilliantly engineered Porty - here's our big chance!
EDIT - whoops, sorry - that was supposed to be a pm.
I had left my house keys in her car and was therefore locked out of the house - I tried to break in by going round the back and sticking my hand in the cat flap to reach the back door key, failed miserably, but didn't know that BB had actually got back home by then (I hadn't even bothered to try the front door, which was open) and thought there was somebody trying to break in.
Once BB had stopped laughing at me, I sort of found the whole thing funny.
I just told it to BB, and she is laughing so much she says she is going to have to go and pee. She actually has gone to pee now.Epykat wrote:Oh go on, you can trust us.......pm me if you like...Dadaist wrote:That story is as nothing compared to the Burns Supper story, which I have never told anybody, not even BB.
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Jackson Priest wrote:I will not go to the loo beforehand.ecm wrote:I look forward to it and will make sure to go to the loo before reading it.
Instead I look forward to the wetting of my trousers.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha etc.
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Oh, behave.Jackson Priest wrote:Well at least it's only cocoa for your monitor.ecm wrote:ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha etc.
How do you best remove cocoa which has been sprayed over a monitor?
Could be much worse for mine if Dadaist's story is as good as he says.
Quick lets get back to the haggis thread. we'll miss the next instalment.
Porty
Thinking back, even though I know you're bored, I think I can see the original error of mine from which the other errors spiralled.
My original statement was wrong - I shouldn't have said "by the time I posted my reply you had edited your response". That was what was incorrect. I think it's happened to me in the past though but obviously not this time, as my entire response was to the edited post of yours and concerned the military.
So both the things you highlighted are mistaken!
I did get on my high horse for sure, but I really think that putting a note as to what the edit was on an edited post makes sense - if anything it's a note to yourself, but also makes things clearer to others, who, like me, may be suffering from confusion to start with.
Thinking back, even though I know you're bored, I think I can see the original error of mine from which the other errors spiralled.
My original statement was wrong - I shouldn't have said "by the time I posted my reply you had edited your response". That was what was incorrect. I think it's happened to me in the past though but obviously not this time, as my entire response was to the edited post of yours and concerned the military.
So both the things you highlighted are mistaken!
I did get on my high horse for sure, but I really think that putting a note as to what the edit was on an edited post makes sense - if anything it's a note to yourself, but also makes things clearer to others, who, like me, may be suffering from confusion to start with.
Excellent spot and yes I was thinking "how terrible" when i heard about it on the news this morning. There are differences, like 7 day judicial reviews but its not tha far away from what could and no doubt will happen here.xxxx wrote:Thank goodness we don't have anything like this here
13 days with no charges!
Foreigners eh?
BTW does the 28 day law still include the 7 day judicial reviews?
It must do, surely?Porty wrote:Excellent spot and yes I was thinking "how terrible" when i heard about it on the news this morning. There are differences, like 7 day judicial reviews but its not tha far away from what could and no doubt will happen here.xxxx wrote:Thank goodness we don't have anything like this here
13 days with no charges!
Foreigners eh?
BTW does the 28 day law still include the 7 day judicial reviews?
Another bit of hypocrisy
Did anyone also think it was a bit hypocritical of Jack Straw etc to say what an appalling act bombing a wedding party was - recent bombings in Jordan - when a) UK/USA forces bombed as far as I can remember at least one wedding party in Afghanistan and b) UK/USA gov's have in any case bombed and massacred a helluva lot of ordinary civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, and do so day by day.....?xxxx wrote:
Thank goodness we don't have anything like this here
13 days with no charges!
Foreigners eh?
Porty replied: Excellent spot and yes I was thinking "how terrible" when i heard about it on the news this morning. There are differences, like 7 day judicial reviews but its not tha far away from what could and no doubt will happen here.
Carla
Re: Another bit of hypocrisy
Hypocritical is too small a word. Mendacity seems more to the mark.Carla wrote: Did anyone also think it was a bit hypocritical of Jack Straw etc to say what an appalling act bombing a wedding party was - recent bombings in Jordan - when a) UK/USA forces bombed as far as I can remember at least one wedding party in Afghanistan and b) UK/USA gov's have in any case bombed and massacred a helluva lot of ordinary civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, and do so day by day.....?
Carla
Note that the atrocity is attributed to the arab pimpernel, Al-Zarqawi, he managed to do this while single handedly pinning down 150,000 odd occupation forces in Iraq. Does this man ever take a day off?
I honestly couldn't be sure. As far as I know there is even a huge questiion mark over the existence of Al Quaeda or rather it started as a figment and came into existence but only after 9/11.
One day I must share my phoning the FBI story, which I did on the Sunday after 9/11. Weird but interesting.
One day I must share my phoning the FBI story, which I did on the Sunday after 9/11. Weird but interesting.