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Post by Pal of Porty » 05 Nov 2004, 11:27

CatzVP wrote:The Land/ Water Duck vehicles that used to take people out into the Forth to the powerstation pylons and back to the beach during one summer. and yes...... I was very young at the time!!!
Does that take me back or what! I used to love watching the 'Duck' when I was a nipper. :D
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Post by wangi » 05 Nov 2004, 13:07

In the '50s I think:

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Post by Brian McCrow » 06 Nov 2004, 11:13

Instead of being negative how's about getting involved in the process.

Architecture can be creative and sympathetic to the surroundings. Elements such as the old harbour could be incorporated within the space occupied by a new building.

Porty does need new residents to keep it vital and to support the local shops and cafes.

We should be campaigning for more housing including affordable housing instead of the Superstore on the Scottish Power/Baileyfield Road site.

Let's have some quality cafes/pubs and restaurants along the Prom.

Let's have more housing in the prime areas overlooking the Prom so more people can enjoy those beautiful views across the Forth.

We do need a Community Development Plan in which the local residents can have their say in how Portobello can be revitalised and serve the needs of all of the residents, young and old.

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Post by DG » 06 Nov 2004, 11:51

Brian wrote
Let's have some quality cafes/pubs and restaurants along the Prom.
Couldn't agree with this more. Portobello promonade is a prime location for this type of service. It would be great to see facilities that are available throughout the year encouraging an ongoing local service.

Architecture can be creative and sympathetic to the surroundings
This is obviously true - however, recent 'negotiations' with residents and architects/planners over the building at the foot of Bath Street proved that there was very little sympathy towards local residents views and wishes. I know this is one case out of many but perhaps people now become rightfully a bit scared, suspicious and concerned when they see more building going on in this area. I am not against new buildings and local developments and often find them quite exciting but we have perhaps lost our trust in these processes.

It would be great if local residents could be more involved in the planning and decision making of Portobello's development. How do we do this?

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Post by DG » 06 Nov 2004, 11:53

I've got my quotes all wrong but not writing it all again so I hope you get the general gist :oops: :D

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Post by Porty » 07 Nov 2004, 02:59

Brian McCrow wrote:Instead of being negative how's about getting involved in the process.

Architecture can be creative and sympathetic to the surroundings. Elements such as the old harbour could be incorporated within the space occupied by a new building.

Porty does need new residents to keep it vital and to support the local shops and cafes.

We should be campaigning for more housing including affordable housing instead of the Superstore on the Scottish Power/Baileyfield Road site.

Let's have some quality cafes/pubs and restaurants along the Prom.

Let's have more housing in the prime areas overlooking the Prom so more people can enjoy those beautiful views across the Forth.

We do need a Community Development Plan in which the local residents can have their say in how Portobello can be revitalised and serve the needs of all of the residents, young and old.
Let's have a grasp on reality.
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Post by Brian McCrow » 07 Nov 2004, 12:24

DG

You can become involved through the Portobello Amenity Society - http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/CEC/Recreat ... ciety.html

and/or the Portobello Community Council - http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/CEC/Recreat ... uncil.html

You can view Planning applications on-line at - http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/ ... portal.jsp

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Post by Ray Gilmour » 07 Nov 2004, 22:26

Porty wrote:What on earth is wrong with Flats? I honestly cannot see the problem.

I can understand the concern about the loss of an amenity. An amenity that could be replaced on a temporary basis each 'season'

Its like "well we all have our flats and houses in portobello, how dare anyone else build more?" What gives?

What we lack is a community infrastucture plan as Rathbone correctly pointed out at length a few weeks ago.
I think the problem with Porty is the total lack of amenities and attractions. If you look at some of the places down South, they haven't got anything close to the natural surroundings that Portobello has to offer, yet they make their local areas such an attractive place to visit, this brings in revenue and jobs.

Flats can be built anywhere, Portobello should be capitalising on its wonderful seaside and long promenade.

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Post by Maria » 08 Nov 2004, 10:39

I think the problem with Porty is the total lack of amenities and attractions.
Is this Porty the man or Porty the place we're discussing here? :wink:
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Post by Ray Gilmour » 08 Nov 2004, 11:25

Marya wrote:
I think the problem with Porty is the total lack of amenities and attractions.
Is this Porty the man or Porty the place we're discussing here? :wink:
I'm sure if Porty the place had all the outstanding qualities Porty the man undoubtedly has you wouldn't be able to move for visitors :roll:

PS That's one pint I can count on being bought for me when I get back "home" :D

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Post by Porty » 08 Nov 2004, 12:51

Keep it up Ray. May I say you appear to be quick on the uptake. :wink:
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Post by Davie Bhoy » 09 Nov 2004, 11:25

They should build a new supermarket or something equally radical.....

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Post by Pal of Porty » 09 Nov 2004, 23:11

Davie Bhoy wrote:They should build a new supermarket or something equally radical.....
Yeah! And that way if you lived on the Prom you would not have to walk all the way up to the new one they are about to build on Baileyfield Road.
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Post by prombabe » 10 Nov 2004, 21:10

Ohhhhhh the memories of the arcade :oops: :oops: :D :D
I've no objection to people getting flats but......the ones at the bottom of Bath Street are hideous as are the ones further along the prom towards joppa If they have to be build, at least keep them in context with their surroundings. The flats are not sand stone are too small compared with what is around them and too modern AND too many of them are crammed into too small a space AWFUL. Yes they all get beautiful views but would.nt it have been better if a picnic area had been erected at the bottom of Bath Street or some other eye pleasing facility
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