Walls of Joppa

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Walls of Joppa

Post by Bob Jefferson » 29 Jan 2006, 13:49

I missed this story, which appeared in the EN last Wed. I must remember to search on 'Joppa' as well as 'Portobello' in future.

Our backs are against the wall

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Re: Walls of Joppa

Post by Porty » 30 Jan 2006, 12:19

self seeking neighbours wrote: But residents say they fear they could lose their own parking spaces and if the changes are allowed to go ahead it could open the way for even bigger developments in the future. “
No grounds for complaint.
victim of vigliante group wrote: Mr Brown, of Coillesdene Avenue, wants to knock down part of a century-old boundary wall between the rear of his house and Coillesdene Grove to make way for the driveway and an 11-foot gate.
Note the bit about it being his house.
self seeking neighbours wrote: "If the wall is knocked down it will mean two parking spaces will be lost - and it's not always easy for people to park their cars here. It wouldn't be a cul-de-sac anymore. There was no proper notification about this and we're very unhappy.
Selfishness to the extreme, no right whatsoever to park and no notification required as no planning implications.

"Alex Foster, 68, who is leading the Coillesdene Grove battlers and has lived in the street for nearly 40 years,. "

A favourite misunderstanding of the long-term resident: imagined rights over more recent dwellers.

"Mr Foster's wife Nancy, 62, said: "If the contractor comes back we will just have to move the cars. I do not want my husband to end up in jail."

Well said by Mrs Foster, as that is precisely where Mr F would deserve to go should he carry on.

"But Mr Brown, 43, insisted he had done everything properly. "
victim of vigliante group wrote:"I went through an architect and everything was passed by the council," he explained. "The wall is not of any heritage value so I do not need planning permission.
Well done Mr Brown you have conducted matters properly and do not deserve to be victimised and ostracised the way you have been. The other "neighbours" ought to be ashamed of their behaviour, all to defend the "loss" of two parking spaces to which they were not entitled. I am glad I don't live beside that lot.

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how many cars!?

Post by Denise » 30 Jan 2006, 13:20

I agree with what you say Porty, but find it hard to believe that any household NEEDS five cars.

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Post by Porty » 30 Jan 2006, 13:35

Denise, I agree with what you say but how many cars they choose to own is a private matter for that family and should not detract from their rights. The argument could get sidetracked by the rights and wrongs of multi-car ownership but it is not the point.

Having said that it would be no surprise if some of the "neighbours" are also 2+ car households, hence the parking issue.

Muti-car ownership is worth keeping an eye on. I have heard of a lot of people who abuse planning regulations and are actually home-based car traders.

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Re: Walls of Joppa

Post by susie » 15 Mar 2006, 18:45

Porty wrote:
self seeking neighbours wrote: But residents say they fear they could lose their own parking spaces and if the changes are allowed to go ahead it could open the way for even bigger developments in the future. “
No grounds for complaint.
victim of vigliante group wrote: Mr Brown, of Coillesdene Avenue, wants to knock down part of a century-old boundary wall between the rear of his house and Coillesdene Grove to make way for the driveway and an 11-foot gate.
Note the bit about it being his house.
self seeking neighbours wrote: "If the wall is knocked down it will mean two parking spaces will be lost - and it's not always easy for people to park their cars here. It wouldn't be a cul-de-sac anymore. There was no proper notification about this and we're very unhappy.
Selfishness to the extreme, no right whatsoever to park and no notification required as no planning implications.

"Alex Foster, 68, who is leading the Coillesdene Grove battlers and has lived in the street for nearly 40 years,. "

A favourite misunderstanding of the long-term resident: imagined rights over more recent dwellers.

"Mr Foster's wife Nancy, 62, said: "If the contractor comes back we will just have to move the cars. I do not want my husband to end up in jail."

Well said by Mrs Foster, as that is precisely where Mr F would deserve to go should he carry on.

"But Mr Brown, 43, insisted he had done everything properly. "
victim of vigliante group wrote:"I went through an architect and everything was passed by the council," he explained. "The wall is not of any heritage value so I do not need planning permission.
Well done Mr Brown you have conducted matters properly and do not deserve to be victimised and ostracised the way you have been. The other "neighbours" ought to be ashamed of their behaviour, all to defend the "loss" of two parking spaces to which they were not entitled. I am glad I don't live beside that lot.
Not very nice calling them 'that lot'. There are people who move into a street and think they can rule the roost. the residents who have lived in the area a long time are quite right, i know what parking is like in my street at times we can wait 2 hours to get parked. keep up the good work colliesdene residents.

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Post by Porty » 15 Mar 2006, 19:55

That lot won in the end, There was a long-standing condition that came to light. Still a bit off a scandal in my opinion but rules have to be respected and I will bow gracefully to the decision

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Post by susie » 16 Mar 2006, 09:10

Porty wrote:That lot won in the end, There was a long-standing condition that came to light. Still a bit off a scandal in my opinion but rules have to be respected and I will bow gracefully to the decision


please stop calling them that lot , its not very nice. The residents deserve to win.

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Post by Porty » 16 Mar 2006, 09:34

The residents were right to win. I will stop calling them the name you don't like.

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