Punch Taverns - meeting with management

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 29 Jun 2005, 13:33

You can also hire me for children's parties.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 29 Jun 2005, 13:50

Bellybabe wrote:Dada, I think you're out of line.

DisgustedPR has a right to call him/herself what he/she likes as long as it doesn't contravene posting guidelines, and I'm concerned that you feel it appropriate to level criticism at a new member for their choice of username.

With regard to the other point, I also feel that DPR has a right to stand up for his/her friend and to give another side to what was going on that night. Epykat had a right to criticise the service; surely other people have a right to defend it? His/her explanation doesn't alter Epykat's experience, and I can't see anywhere where it tries to; it just shows the other side. I thouight that was something you were quite keen on, showing that there are usually two or more sides to a story. I'm disappointed by your response - not your usual standard, I'm afraid.

Bellybabe

I'm disappointed with your response to my response.

1. Your first paragraph fails to deal with my main point. Do you think somebody who joins with a name like that wants to make more than one point on more than one topic, and be reasonable about it? There is a big difference between the topic of your first post and what you choose to style yourself as. And that's *if* this isn't DPR's sole post. Do we call all of our posts "a post by Bellybabe" ? No. Do we change our names every time we post? No. Forums like this work because we use tags and compartmentalize our thoughts in a structured way. Go off and invent your own standard for message interchange if you like - as far as I am concerned, name tags and post topics are separate entities.

2. Whoah. You have, by implication, put words in my mouth. How could you miss the bit where I said "in all probability Epykat got it wrong" - where did I get that idea from - er, from DPR's post of course!!! So where does that fit into the strange idea that DPR doesn't have the right to defend his/her friend? My criticism was not based on DPR's post, but on two things :

(a) His/Her choice of screen name. See 1.

(b) His/Her mistaken criticism of Epykat as having "slagged" someone off.

If I am out of line for telling DPR that he/she is out of line, then you are out of line for telling me I am out of line for telling DPR that he/she is out of line.

Where is your line now?

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 29 Jun 2005, 13:53

Gedge wrote:Sometimes I feel that when he has noone to argue with, Dadaist sets himself up as a new member, posts a message and then replies with his usual entertaining, outspoken prose.

Does anyone else suspect this to be the case in this instance?

Can't think of any other explanation!

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 29 Jun 2005, 13:59

Must admit when I saw the user name I did wonder what was in store for us. My money was on a disgruntled karaoke singer from the Tides Inn, but, of course, that's Scarlet Sadie

bellybabe · Post by **bellybabe** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:01

Dadaist wrote:[
(b) His/Her mistaken criticism of Epykat as having "slagged" someone off.

He/she didn't say Epykat had slagged anyone off. He/she distinctly said
"before you start slagging...". Your mistaken criticism, perhaps?

Where is your line now?

It's at a party...

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Post by **wangi** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:04

Dada, I agree 100% with you - poor choice of username and a misunderstanding on a (I'd say) seeming innocent observation by E.

To move backwards, in reply to "DISGUSTEDportyRESIDENT"... I think it is perfectly valid to complain about service when it is not up to the level expected. The staffing levels, other staff, etc, etc are no concern of the customer - they are the concern of the management and the staff. Sure, people have bad days, people are sometimes a bit off when dealing with customers... However this isn't the customers fault!

Or would you have everyone wear a big badge - "sorry, I might be stroppy today - overworked & underpayed"?

Obvioulsy it easier to read people when you know them.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:05

Bellybabe wrote:
Dadaist wrote:[
(b) His/Her mistaken criticism of Epykat as having "slagged" someone off.
He/she didn't say Epykat had slagged anyone off. He/she distinctly said
"before you start slagging...". Your mistaken criticism, perhaps?

Where is your line now?
It's at a party...

Pedantry and backpedaling. Wink all you like, but respond properly to my response please, or withdraw your accusation that I am out of line for saying DPR's name and accusation are more out of line than Epykat's original line outage, from DPR's perspective.

bellybabe · Post by **bellybabe** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:14

No. I didn't accuse you of being out of line, I gave it as my opinion, and I'm entitled to it, just as you're entitled to yours about DPR's username and response about the bar staff. I'm not going to get into one of your long, drawn-out scraps today, D, as I've got things I need to do, and they're more important than verbally jousting with you. Sorry to disappoint you.

BB

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:17

Bellybabe wrote:No. I didn't accuse you of being out of line, I gave it as my opinion, and I'm entitled to it, just as you're entitled to yours about DPR's username and response about the bar staff. I'm not going to get into one of your long, drawn-out scraps today, D, as I've got things I need to do, and they're more important than verbally jousting with you. Sorry to disappoint you.

BB

I'm not disappointed as clearly you'll be back to defend yourself properly as soon as possible. I will be waiting.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:26

When is the baby due?

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 29 Jun 2005, 14:43

Porty wrote:When is the baby due?

Are you saying this is child's play to me?

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 29 Jun 2005, 15:10

As it happens, it is child's play for you.

However, I was referring to DPR's post. Everyone is banging on about the undoubtedly poor service. No-one seems to be interested in the arrival of the barmaid's unborn child.

Its ok for folk like Epykat, who as far as i can gather, staggers from one drink to the next and has obvioulsy forgotten what its like to be with child. She has taken to stopping out til all hours with scant regard for the wellbeing of those that are caught up in her incessant quest for hedonistic pleasure. I bet her own drink survived the Utopia cut-off.

A word of advice Epykat; the next time you are looking for a last minute snorkel, just take a second or two to enquire after the health and welfare of your intended server. If they are tired, have an ongoing Domdis or maybe even have their current lover waiting eagerly for their shift to end. Take a long hard look at yourself and say "do I really need that drink"? You may feel better in the morning.

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 29 Jun 2005, 15:16

Porty wrote: Everyone is banging on about the undoubtedly poor service.

I'm not.

Marya wrote:Was in for a couple of drinks last night. Liked the new decor and hope that Ali rewards last night's barman handsomely for being the only guy to turn up for his work yesterday. He did a great job of serving and remaining cheerful despite the fact that he was holding the fort on his own and on a Bank Holiday.

But then again he probably wasn't pregnant.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 29 Jun 2005, 16:00

Marya wrote:
Porty wrote: Everyone is banging on about the undoubtedly poor service.
I'm not.

Neither am I, generally speaking, I meant as experienced by Epykat on the night in question. I don't believe she is making the story up.

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 29 Jun 2005, 16:54

Hello everybody! And welcome to Disgusted of Portobello

I really do hope the barmaid is feeling better. I have absolutely no ill feeling towards the girl whatsoever and yes, I do know what it's like to be pregnant, tired and working. I wasn't slagging her off I was merely making an off the cuff remark about what happened. I'm not even complaining! I do think it's a bit unfair of you though Disgusted to try to imply that I might either have known what kind of day she had had/was going to have. As Wangi pointed out, my friends and I were CUSTOMERS making an OBSERVATION not a complaint. And I also hope you're feeling better now that you've got that off your chest.

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 29 Jun 2005, 17:01

Porty wrote:
Marya wrote:
Porty wrote: Everyone is banging on about the undoubtedly poor service.
I'm not.
Neither am I, generally speaking, I meant as experienced by Epykat on the night in question. I don't believe she is making the story up.

And I didn't say the service was POOR, if anything it was over-enthusiastic! Anyway, I didn't like the pub (nothing to do with the staff) and I probably won't go back very often so all's well that ends well

Scarlet Sadie · Post by **Scarlet Sadie** » 30 Jun 2005, 19:36

What I really like about the pub is that I am really able to hit the high notes and turn up the volume nice and loud. When you walk through a storm.............

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 30 Jun 2005, 20:48

I have been practising 'The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go' on my daughters PS2 Krakatoke machine - but after 3 months I am still only getting 'Lame Duck' as a rating. Should I ever venture public, now that would really annoy the neighbours!

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 30 Jun 2005, 20:59

Pal of Porty wrote:Should I ever venture public

I bet the indecision is killing you.

maureen mclaughlin · Post by **maureen mclaughlin** » 30 Jun 2005, 22:00

Sadie I think before you hit the high note

you should think, should I go or should I stay, as you may go on to spoil a perfect day, because oh my god. I predict a riot

If you continue on Saturday night. Plus it out date and not the modern way to sing $\:D/$ so loud down at the river. Why donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t you give it a miss and go to MaryÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s place before it hitÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the midnight hour and your left with only memories.

I suggest you keep moving to the sunshine

on Leith.
If you stay Sadie then every day I love you less and less.

Mo

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 30 Jun 2005, 22:51

Dadaist wrote:I bet the indecision is killing you.

You're just tease tease tease!

Novastar · Post by **Novastar** » 01 Jul 2005, 16:10

maureen mclaughlin wrote: I suggest you keep moving to the sunshine on Leith.

That won't work - half the pubs seem to have shut down recently.

Scarlet Sadie · Post by **Scarlet Sadie** » 02 Jul 2005, 11:10

Pal of Porty, there aint no such thing as a lame duck - looks like Maureen and you should join me on Saturday night in a ABBA medley. Dancing Queen, Waterloo, and that Mexican bloke what gets shot.

We could introduce ourselves as the Portobello Plonkers and get punch drunk (get it) show the pub what happens when they mess with the best.

When the going gets tough

foxy · Post by **foxy** » 02 Jul 2005, 12:26

Scarlet Sadie wrote:Pal of Porty, there aint no such thing as a lame duck - looks like Maureen and you should join me on Saturday night in a ABBA medley. Dancing Queen, Waterloo, and that Mexican bloke what gets shot. We could introduce ourselves as the Portobello Plonkers and get punch drunk (get it) show the pub what happens when they mess with the best.

When the going gets tough

Poor Maureen must dread Saturday nights

...imagine being forced to listen to amateurs singing Abba from what should be the peace and quiet of your living room...torture

maureen mclaughlin · Post by **maureen mclaughlin** » 04 Jul 2005, 21:31

Sadie, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know about Pal of Porty but if I was even to consider it we would have to get a few ground rules.
1) The minuet you looked as if you were about to dance around your hand bag it's over befour it even starts.
2) Turn up in you favourite big shoulder spangled outfit

then youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re on your own. A position I'am sure you find your self in a lot
3) DonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t hog the Mick

its bad scheme pub, etiquette.
4) If thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s to be a dancing Queen

its Pal of Porty or no one OK.
5) We go some where out of town and away from residents. Less likely to be spotted.

6) You pay for the taxi home.

7) And most importantly, you bay the chips on the way home.

Mo
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Poppy · Post by **Poppy** » 04 Jul 2005, 21:39

We go some where out of town and away from residents. Less likely to be spotted.

Punch have a couple of pubs in Stornoway ................ !!

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 04 Jul 2005, 23:45

Poppy wrote:
We go some where out of town and away from residents. Less likely to be spotted.
Punch have a couple of pubs in Stornoway ................ !!

I believe that Desert Island Kareoke are on the lookout for someone with Sadie's talent, the only problem is, the Island they will be using has a
geographical problem - its below sea level - so the tide will be permanatly inn! what a bonus eh!!

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 05 Jul 2005, 09:45

Gemini wrote:
I believe that Desert Island Kareoke :

Think you'll find that's Krakatoke.

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 05 Jul 2005, 21:47

Porty wrote:
Gemini wrote:
I believe that Desert Island Kareoke :
Think you'll find that's Krakatoke.

Is that East of Java

Scarlet Sadie · Post by **Scarlet Sadie** » 05 Jul 2005, 22:25

So its desert Island discs,
Am gonna wash that man right outa ma hair $\:D/$

So has this debate moved on to taking the punch pub Kareoke team on holiday or at least dropping them off on a deserted island?

I supose that's one way of shutting us up. Can I suggest Benidorm? Quiet and classy - Viva La Espania.

I'll dance round my handbag in any country Maureen although I don't think I can take my extra stong hair spray on the plane without causing a major security alert. Feel free to join me and Pal of Porty on a Kareoke Kontinental Kruise,

See the pyramids along the Nile (I accept that's not quite the Kontinent)

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 06 Jul 2005, 09:20

Scarlet Sadie wrote:So its desert Island discs,
Am gonna wash that man right outa ma hair $\:D/$

So has this debate moved on to taking the punch pub Kareoke team on holiday or at least dropping them off on a deserted island?
I supose that's one way of shutting us up. Can I suggest Benidorm? Quiet and classy - Viva La Espania.

I'll dance round my handbag in any country Maureen although I don't think I can take my extra stong hair spray on the plane without causing a major security alert. Feel free to join me and Pal of Porty on a Kareoke Kontinental Kruise,

See the pyramids along the Nile (I accept that's not quite the Kontinent)

Apologies Sadie, what I should have highlighted was 'DESSERTED ISLAND KAREOKE' I have it on good authority that South Georgia is exceptionally nice at this time of year. Be sure to take your handbag and cossies, and tennis raquetts a pre requisite, by having these with you, you will be sure to get around more easily

Scarlet Sadie · Post by **Scarlet Sadie** » 10 Jul 2005, 14:42

I think I will just concentrate on keeping kareoke live and loud in Porty.

It's not as if the prefects have done anything to stop me. Maureen come over to the dark, side get your tonsils into gear and join me on a night at the coca coca ca banna (el punchero pubos) - I'll buy the chips. Alternatively I could change loyalties and we could set up in Maureen front room. I can just see the headlines ' pub closes due to noise from neighbours kareoke machine!'

You know you make me wanna SHOUT!

foxy · Post by **foxy** » 10 Jul 2005, 16:26

Scarlet Sadie wrote: It's not as if the prefects have done anything to stop me.

now there's an attitude to be proud of...would you also commit murder if you thought you would get away with it

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 19 Jul 2005, 13:26

.... a self appointed cabal which meets behind closed doors .... a cynical corporate agenda barely covered with a veneer of benevolence .... the oppressed not invited but patronised .... the problems continue despite or even because of the policies put forward by those in the meeting .... the group resolve to meet again amongst much back-slapping even in the midst of the anguish of the disenfranchised who knock on their very gates ....

....oh sorry wrong thread, supposed to be about the G8 not the prefects' meeting.....

Scarlet Sadie · Post by **Scarlet Sadie** » 10 Aug 2005, 20:49

Now look Dadaist, you've quashed the debate by being too much of a hippy

If you're going to San Fransico.....

It's I good thing I'm back from my holidays in time to lower the tone again.

So what's the news? Have Punch Taverns survived another day to provide in home entertainment (whether to want it or not) or has it gone to the big Butlins Holiday camp in the sky?

Gimmie an F, gimmie a U.........