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by David Robertson
04 Dec 2013, 16:12
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - Private Bill submitted
Replies: 14
Views: 10105

Re: New Portobello High School - Private Bill submitted

I am delighted to read that, now for the parliamentary debate. :D
by David Robertson
14 Mar 2013, 18:20
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - Private Bill consultation
Replies: 69
Views: 56533

Re: New Portobello High School - Private Bill Porty Park

Makaveli wrote:The council have agreed to go forward with a Private Bill for PHS.
Was that decision ever in doubt ?

Pity about the wastage caused by selfish individuals.


Thread closed; continued at New Portobello High School - Private Bill submitted
by David Robertson
09 Mar 2013, 18:53
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - Private Bill consultation
Replies: 69
Views: 56533

Re: New Portobello High School - Private Bill Porty Park

The Comely Bank anomaly is purely down to PPAG canvassing in Waitrose. They realised, too late, that their best chance of gaining support was to canvass outwith the catchment area, the further away the better in fact, where people were unlikely to be aware of the facts and were therefore more susce...
by David Robertson
09 Mar 2013, 18:50
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - Private Bill consultation
Replies: 69
Views: 56533

Re: New Portobello High School - Private Bill Porty Park

Makaveli wrote:What's up with the people of Comley Bank?

Have we upset them or do PPAG/BYOB have contacts over there?
They do not want ex Porty kids going to posh skools in stockbridge where the NIMBY's kids go!
by David Robertson
30 Jan 2013, 11:44
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - Private Bill consultation
Replies: 69
Views: 56533

Re: New Portobello High School - Private Bill Porty Park

Thank you for posting that graphic, it puts perspective on the issue and PPAG !
by David Robertson
23 Jan 2013, 08:37
Forum: G&TT
Topic: PPAG's latest dirty tricks at Morrisons
Replies: 4
Views: 4058

Re: PPAG's latest dirty tricks at Morrisons

I was at Morrison's at about 10am on Saturday morning and was a bit surprised to see a table set up between the two sets of doors manned by people looking for signatures to Save Porty Park. I didn't see any sign of any activity for those on the other side of the issue but there might well have been...
by David Robertson
22 Jan 2013, 10:37
Forum: G&TT
Topic: PPAG's latest dirty tricks at Morrisons
Replies: 4
Views: 4058

PPAG's latest dirty tricks at Morrisons

Does anyone know what happened at Morrisons ? I saw people speaking to shoppers and were asking them to support the new school being built on the park. I did not stop as I have already submitted my support but I later heard that PPAG were tipped off, turned up and there was some conflict between the...
by David Robertson
23 Nov 2012, 16:06
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

I just read the Council report in its entirety. One striking detail is the response to St John's Parent Council's survey of their community. You will recall that in the days when Alison Connelly ran the show and had months to garner community opinion, the parent council managed to get about 6 respo...
by David Robertson
01 Nov 2012, 08:27
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Geoff -Re consultation. Is the website you mention the official place for parents to put in their comments? If so who wrote the pros and cons? There appear to be a lot of assumptions being made. Were these timescales etc taken directly from the council officials or are PFANS making it up to suit th...
by David Robertson
24 Oct 2012, 12:32
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

I somehow get the feeling that the idea of the "feasibility" study is to show that there is only ONE site feasible, Portobello Park. When it comes down to it, they are trying to show that it is not the percentage of "parkland" or "green space" that is the problem, it is THEIR "greenspace" and "park...
by David Robertson
19 Oct 2012, 16:34
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Pal of Porty wrote:The new park is not on their doorstep for one but the school will be! When has this ever been about green space for PPAG?
Spot on ! I lookforward to hearing their objections as they will undoutedly be some
by David Robertson
19 Oct 2012, 16:33
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

seashell wrote:What possible reason could they have for objecting? :wink:
Because they can....... NIMBY !
by David Robertson
17 Oct 2012, 13:28
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: St Andrews Chip Shop
Replies: 9
Views: 4616

Re: St Andrews Chip Shop

Porty wrote:St Andrews was great after BB's at St Philips, a bag of chips and a walk back to the Christians. A poke of chips was 3d in 1968- the equivalentof 80 pokes for £1.
Steady that sort of comment will attract some dodgy responses !
by David Robertson
17 Oct 2012, 13:27
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: St Andrews Chip Shop
Replies: 9
Views: 4616

Re: St Andrews Chip Shop

Franck wrote:I've always thought that the standard of chippy in porty is well below what could be expected in a seaside town.All of them are a distant second to giovannis in Northfield.
They have been going downhill for more than a decade, in my opinion !
by David Robertson
13 Oct 2012, 06:36
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Porty wrote:Plan A will suffice.
It is the obvious one for me.
by David Robertson
12 Oct 2012, 14:50
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Kezia setting her stall out and making it clear the views at the public meeting where firmly behind a build on the park. http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/education/holyrood-chiefs-can-overturn-porty-ruling-1-2569317 Dare I ask the obvious ? Why not do one or all three ? And why waste ...
by David Robertson
11 Oct 2012, 22:33
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Cut to the chase Kesia. Private members bill, 6 -9 mths if big Kenny shows his metal and gets the G'ment on board. 2 years to build, new school in under 3 years. Can't see anything quicker. Closest would be be a rebuild on site, plans needed, new place for St John needed, minimum 6 - 8 years if you...
by David Robertson
11 Oct 2012, 17:26
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Officials are preparing a report for the Council meeting on the 25th. It'll be in the public domain on the 18th. That will set out what options there are for pursuing the school as planned, and alternative sites/strategies, and will make recommendations on what actions to take next. It's for Cllrs ...
by David Robertson
11 Oct 2012, 14:58
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

David - differing is perfectly okay and I will bow to your experience. I wasn't there, was opining on the basis of what many said- up until the summation!! No problem at all, I did not think I saw you there. As you know I am very new to this having only got interested after the Court Decision but t...
by David Robertson
11 Oct 2012, 14:13
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

That's not fair David, the meeting was very well run and well intentioned- this is one of the rare occassions where there is total justification for blaming the messenger! :roll: Well I am afraid I beg to differ. I have no doubt with the intention but the method of tables of ten, maps, bits of pape...
by David Robertson
11 Oct 2012, 13:38
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

mcdryburn wrote:Kezia Dugdale has confirmed the report has been withdrawn and has apologised.
I just received something from Gilmore.

Honestly these people could not run a sponsored walk !

Where now ?
by David Robertson
11 Oct 2012, 09:53
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Just received this from Kezia Dugdale: This is just a further note to say that we have now withdrawn the report from the Council and deleted it from our respective websites. I am personally very sorry that we’ve got to a point where this endeavour, started with the best of intentions, is seen to be...
by David Robertson
10 Oct 2012, 16:07
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Email received from Keiza Dugdale, too long to post lol - but took this part out of it: Myself, Sheila and Maureen will write again to the Committee saying that we have received substantial negative feedback to the report from attendees and recognise the error we have made in the attempts to analys...
by David Robertson
09 Oct 2012, 19:33
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Waste of a read, waste of time and totally ineffective !

Only my opinion of course !
by David Robertson
03 Oct 2012, 20:35
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

portygeoff wrote:Why go through the Common Ground issue, a Bill through Parliament will ensure that the will of the majority of Portobello is carried out. Wasted too much time already.
My thoughts exactly !
by David Robertson
03 Oct 2012, 17:15
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

The battle about the desirability of the park is over. It has been for a number of years. The only thing preventing the school being built is a poorly worded law. Which can hopefully be fixed quickly . If there is a decision that the park is not common good, can this be appealed? Hopefully the lawy...
by David Robertson
03 Oct 2012, 15:36
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Porty wrote:The battle about the desirability of the park is over. It has been for a number of years. The only thing preventing the school being built is a poorly worded law. Which can hopefully be fixed quickly .
Spot on in my opinion.
by David Robertson
28 Sep 2012, 21:10
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

The Association did not have the power to petition the Court so therefore any decision made by the Court would probably be set aside. Sorry David but I have to disagree with you here. Speaking as a lawyer, I would say there are various legal avenues of attack open to the Council but with all due re...
by David Robertson
28 Sep 2012, 20:57
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

The following letter from the Council was sent out the other day and has been circulated to the cluster primary parent councils. 1952 01a.pdf What a fob off ! Only CEC could organise a meeting to discuss the matter the day after a statutory period for appeal expires. I honestly wonder if these preo...
by David Robertson
28 Sep 2012, 20:44
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Once a constitution is adopted -and I am assuming here it has been adopted - it must be adhered to and if it is not PPAG may be operating "Ultra Vires"or outwith their powers. If on appealing the original Court decision they were operating Uirtra Vires them their appeal could be set aside as invali...
by David Robertson
28 Sep 2012, 09:39
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

It would depend upon whther the appeal to the orignal decision was made inthe name of PPAG or individuals, does anyone know ? The judgement itself names the PORTOBELLO PARK ACTION GROUP ASSOCIATION as the Petitioners and Reclaimers. Thank you. If that is the case thenI think in petitioning the Cour...
by David Robertson
28 Sep 2012, 08:12
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

There is much talk backwards, forwards, having a mandate, not having a mandate etc., etc.. How about, at the next election for the Council, we just have TWO candidates, one for PFANS and one PPAG. the one who wins............................... Mind you, we might still be left with what we have jus...
by David Robertson
28 Sep 2012, 07:15
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

Sorry David I was being sarcastic. PPAG won't pay an heed to their constitution whatever it says. I am sure they won't but unfortunately the legal system and courts will. Once a constitution is adopted -and I am assuming here it has been adopted - it must be adhered to and if it is not PPAG may be ...
by David Robertson
27 Sep 2012, 22:34
Forum: Portobello Matters
Topic: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal
Replies: 886
Views: 269407

Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG win legal appeal

I doubt it. They are very methodical, check and double check everything prior to publishing. Does that mean you doubt any lawyers whave had a look at it or you doubt it has flaws ? I think there is a fundamental flaw in this constitution ! I spent years at University with Middle class..... who had ...